Don Winner breaks down one of the most overlooked questions in near-death experience research — the boundary.
Most NDErs are told to stop, that if they go any further there is no coming back. Some are given a choice. Some are not.
And the ones who chose to stay? We never hear from them. Is it 50%? Is it 90%? Nobody knows.
This clip is from a longer conversation about what NDE research actually reveals about what happens when we die.
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Host: I want to get your opinion on something I’m going to just throw out there, because not only have I interviewed a lot of people, but I’ve spent a lot of years thinking about this topic. One of the conclusions I’ve come to is that when people have a near-death experience, they’re seeing or experiencing just a teeny, tiny glimpse of what the afterlife is going to be like. You’re nodding your head — you must agree with that as well.
Don: Yep. Yep. Yep.
Host: Do you think that because they’re only seeing that little glimpse — there’s obviously a whole lot more that they’re not seeing and experiencing — can that throw us off a little bit?
Don: Absolutely. It absolutely does. You’re right on the money there. Think about walking into Disney World, but you don’t get past the turnstile — there’s a boundary issue. There’s an entire subset of people who have their near-death experience, they cross over, they go through the process — the tunnel, the white light, the life review, the ancestors — but then there’s a boundary element where they’re basically told, “Okay, you’ve got to stop right there, because if you go any farther, there’s no coming back.” Their body is still viable, they’ve got things left to do in their life, so they’re encouraged to go back. But that boundary is there, and it comes up all the time — not 100% of the time, I don’t know the exact number, but it’s a frequent mention. And if somebody hits that boundary and keeps going, you’re not going to be interviewing them, because they didn’t come back. That’s part of what comes up in these interviews.
Host: I often wonder, of those who say they had a choice of whether to come back or not — which is the majority; there are a few who are just told “you’re going back,” but most have some kind of choice, even if they’re talked into the decision — I believe that agency, that freedom of choice, is a huge part of what the next life is about, as well as this life, for that matter. But the point was, I often wonder how many people, when given a choice, said, “Well, I’m staying” — and we never hear from them. Is it 90%? Is it 50%? We have no idea.
Don: Consider somebody who’s in some kind of very dramatic, kinetic death, where their body is destroyed to the point of no return — coming back isn’t a choice for them at all. So in that case, their free will is removed. There’s a chapter in my book about free will, and how free will is something that crosses over from here to there. There aren’t a lot of things that cross over from here to there, but I believe that’s one of them.